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		<title>Canadian Housing Bubble and how to short it</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently I went to a PHP programming conference in Chicago, Illinois and was able to sit next to a Canadian businessman on our flight home. We discussed many things and some how we ended up on the U.S housing bubble. &#8220;How much have homes appreciated in value where you live?&#8221; I asked. &#8220;Well, I sold [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.acloudtree.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/cdn_graph.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-777" title="cdn_graph" src="http://www.acloudtree.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/cdn_graph.jpg" alt="canadian housing bubble" width="300" height="281" /></a>Recently I went to a PHP programming conference in Chicago, Illinois and was able to sit next to a Canadian businessman on our flight home. We discussed many things and some how we ended up on the U.S housing bubble.</p>
<p>&#8220;How much have homes appreciated in value where you live?&#8221; I asked.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, I sold a home in early 2000 for about $180k&#8221; he started. &#8220;Now that same home, with maybe $300k worth of upgrades would go for $700k-$800k&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Uh oh,</em> I thought <em>strike one</em></p>
<p>I proceeded to tell him about Bend and how at our height, the median was around $400k.</p>
<p>&#8220;What is it now?&#8221; he asked.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, I think last month the median was around $180k&#8221;</p>
<p>The businessman sat there, mouth agape, stunned.</p>
<p>&#8220;Glad that isn&#8217;t happening up north, I&#8217;d be in trouble.  I think homes in Canada are going to just level off in large YoY appreciataion because they were so cheap before&#8221;</p>
<p><em>strike two </em>I thought.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well why couldn&#8217;t it happen with Canada also?&#8221; I asked directly.</p>
<p>He looked at me, and with conviction, said &#8220;Well, Canada is different&#8230;&#8221; and proceeded to tell me how.</p>
<p><em>Strike three</em> I thought <em>this thing is toast</em></p>
<p>And then today I read <a title="mish canada housing bubble" href="http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/05/hosed-in-canada-housing-crash-is-given.html">this</a> article from mish</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Imagine, 68% of your disposable income being spent on housing costs with  the remaining disposable income likely being spent on their favorite  Top Ramen and KD dinners.  This is insane as well as unsustainable.   It&#8217;s funny that many Canadians seems to think that the 49th parallel has  magically created immunity from a housing bust that in their minds is  exclusive to the United States.  I can&#8217;t tell you how many times friends  and acquaintances say that Canada&#8217;s banks are sound and there was no  sub-prime lending and it just can&#8217;t happen here.  I&#8217;m quick to remind  them that the loss of one income from a two income family will in  essence convert a low credit risk to a poor credit risk akin to that of a  sub-prime borrower real fast. Now, multiply this my hundreds of  thousands if not millions of borrows and we too have a major problem in  Canada no different from that of the US.   Wishful thinking really.  The  proof&#8217;s in the pudding and this puddings going to bring a dose of  reality to those that are living in fantasy land, way beyond their means  and who apparently have missed the global financial crisis that&#8217;s been  gaining traction and intensity since August 2007.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not only  &#8220;Hosers&#8221; in Canada but we&#8217;re royally Hosed as well!!</p>
<p>Robert  Clegg, JD, LL.M<br />
Ombudsman, University of Calgary<br />
Calgary, Alberta</p></blockquote>
<p>Now if only I could figure out how to short the housing mess that we all know is coming to Canada, I&#8217;d be insanely rich.</p>
<p>-peace</p>
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